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Here is an aopa article from yesterday about the Searey.
https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...m_medium=email

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May just be coincidence, but after I wrote AOPA and AvWeb last week, “Why no news or updates on SeaRey in all of aviation news? Are they open or closed? Why the news blackout?” I got an email back from AOPA saying it is strange and the company seems to have shut off phones and ceased ops. Now AOPA did an article updating situation. Glad they got some info out.

Interesting to note all the foreign investment in US aircraft manufacturing. I didn't realize China had hooks in so many companies. Cirrus has seemed of got the most of it, but what is baffling to me is the how after China Aviation Industry General Aircraft bought out the majority shareholder ARCAPITA to take control of Cirrus, but 9 months later ARCAPITA went into CH11 and sold off all their assets. May have been incredible timing and luck, or a well executed preplanned backroom strategy to save Cirrus, but Cirrus seemed to have narrowly missed a crippling blow of having their major shareholder filed Ch11 under their roof.

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Sounds like you were instrumental in getting this info out, while they were sleeping.

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Yeah, just got an email from the person I emailed letting me know the if is now out...

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I’m relatively new to Icon. I wasn’t aware that according to ChatGPT. This is not the first time for Icon.

From ChatGPT….

Icon Aircraft filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in April 2017. The company emerged from bankruptcy and completed its restructuring in April 2018, allowing it to continue its operations with a stronger financial foundation.

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I have gotten junk out of ChatGPT. It only knows what it knows, and makes up the rest.

I ask someone inside ICON who has been there for years and it was news to them.

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That’s why I was surprised that it wasn’t mentioned here before. ChatGPT has come a long way, but I guess still has to be taken with a grain of salt.

One time Waze gave me directions to get off the highway at the rest stop. A rest stop that can only go back on the highway.

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Oh, I had that just the other day with Waze where it had me going a crazy direction and circling back to do a U-turns when all I need to do is make a legal left turn. ????????????

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Now ChatGPT has us going in circles. I can’t find anything on a 2017 Bankruptcy. Wonder where it got that from.

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Like I said, there has been documented searches where it was determine ChatGPT falsified references to support what it was saying. If it doesn’t know, it just makes it up.

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Here is what I got:
Did the ICON Aircraft Company final bankruptcy in 2017?


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No, the ICON Aircraft company did not file for bankruptcy in 2017. However, the company did face financial challenges and underwent restructuring in the years leading up to 2017. ICON Aircraft, known for its production of light sport aircraft, has had a somewhat turbulent financial history, but as of my last update in January 2022, it hadn't declared bankruptcy. For the most current information, you might want to check recent news sources.

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I tried again. Asking what’s going on with the Icon A5 and the bankruptcy.

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ICON Aircraft, the manufacturer of the ICON A5 amphibious light sport aircraft, filed for bankruptcy protection in 2017. The company faced financial challenges related to production delays and cost overruns. However, ICON Aircraft restructured and emerged from bankruptcy in 2018, continuing to produce and sell the A5 aircraft. As of my last update in January 2022, the company was operating, but I don't have the latest information beyond that.

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I just asked ChatGPT what day of the week it is. Apparently it’s Thursday. So much for intelligence.

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I just asked ChatGPT what day of the week it is. Apparently it’s Thursday. So much for intelligence.

Too funny!

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I tried again. Asking what’s going on with the Icon A5 and the bankruptcy.

ChatGPT
ICON Aircraft, the manufacturer of the ICON A5 amphibious light sport aircraft, filed for bankruptcy protection in 2017. The company faced financial challenges related to production delays and cost overruns. However, ICON Aircraft restructured and emerged from bankruptcy in 2018, continuing to produce and sell the A5 aircraft. As of my last update in January 2022, the company was operating, but I don't have the latest information beyond that.

When a Large Language Model like ChatGPT produces andwers like this, Machine Learning experts call it "hallucinations". See, for example, https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.11817

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When a Large Language Model like ChatGPT produces andwers like this, Machine Learning experts call it "hallucinations". See, for example, https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.11817

Looks like you know this stuff.

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Looks like you know this stuff.

I dabbled in Machine Learning. It is fun but tedious. Flying an Icon is a lot more fun!

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I dabbled in Machine Learning. It is fun but tedious. Flying an Icon is a lot more fun!

Im glad you understand it. It’s all Greek to me.